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dicecube · Mar 31, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

what weapon set do u guys generally run for a hybrid? i know ppl will say good monks switch between weapon sets, but which one would u used in general if you had to choose one?

Tyla · Mar 31, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

40/40 Prot set.
Either that or 40/20/20.

Marverick · Apr 01, 2008, 02:28 AM // 02:28

40/40 healing for the most part

20/20 and +20% enchant/hsr10% set for casting Aegis

Tyla · Apr 01, 2008, 02:45 AM // 02:45

Not only for casting Aegis. It's also for small prots such as Guardian and SoA. And why would you use 40/40 heal, when Patient Spirit is a 1/4 and WoH is a 3/4? Even if you're using Dwaynas Kiss over it, it's a waste using on your common hybrid bar because you need to be casting your prots more often.

Yichi · Apr 01, 2008, 04:49 AM // 04:49

because most prot spells already have a fast enough recharge that the 40/40 prot set is redundant. The 40/20/20 staff is usually better since most of the prots themselves are a lasting enchantment, so you want the 40/40 set to pump out heals when not flinging out prots.

Mr Pink57 · Apr 01, 2008, 06:15 AM // 06:15

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Originally Posted by Shaz

I think you meant 10 seconds aegis, not 12. If you want 10 second aegis, I'd run this instead

12+1+1 Heal
11+1 Prot
6+1 Divine

With this split, your divine will heal for 13 less, but WoH will heal for 17 more (so a gain of 4) and 27 more (14 gain) if target is < 50%. Every little bit help

, because when you heal you're trying to push red bars up. Not as important as when you prot, because you're just trying to keep red bars from going down.

Not sure taking out Kiss for Guardian is a good idea though, having 2 heal is better imo. For when you get D shot, Sig of humility, diversion, etc. on one of your heal.

That's said, I'd go with Alex build and attributes split for a more rounded build.

Generally Dismiss works just fine as a secondary heal in PvE, I use it a lot for top off if needed. I've tried using Patient in PvE but I just prefer RoF for that lightning orb.

pink

flettir · Apr 02, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07

[skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill][skill]Word of Healing[/skill][skill]Heal Party[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Cure Hex[/skill][skill]Selfless Spirit[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill]
12+1+3 Healing, 10+1 Divine Favor, 8+1 Protection

Self-explanatory enough. This build has served me well throughout everything in the game (not that i use it 100% of the time, but it works anywhere). Selfless isn't necessary, but you can spam almost everything mindlessly for as much as 24 seconds, which makes you completely ridiculous in a heated battle.
Heal Party can also be replaced now, maybe by Aegis or SoA.

ender6 · Apr 02, 2008, 03:05 PM // 15:05

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Originally Posted by flettir

[skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill][skill]Word of Healing[/skill][skill]Heal Party[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Cure Hex[/skill][skill]Selfless Spirit[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill]
12+1+3 Healing, 10+1 Divine Favor, 8+1 Protection

Self-explanatory enough. This build has served me well throughout everything in the game (not that i use it 100% of the time, but it works anywhere). Selfless isn't necessary, but you can spam almost everything mindlessly for as much as 24 seconds, which makes you completely ridiculous in a heated battle.
Heal Party can also be replaced now, maybe by Aegis or SoA.

Yeah HP should be dropped for either Aegis or Gaurdian. And you didn't bring a condition removal, I would drop rebirth for Dismiss, or if u have to keep Rebirth drop Selfless Spirit.

MasterSasori · Apr 02, 2008, 04:14 PM // 16:14

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Originally Posted by ender6

Yeah HP should be dropped for either Aegis or Gaurdian. And you didn't bring a condition removal, I would drop rebirth for Dismiss, or if u have to keep Rebirth drop Selfless Spirit.

/signed for not having rebirth. Don't like rebirth on a monk, it should be for other classes that doesn't need its energy nearly as much as monk.

funbun · Apr 04, 2008, 05:55 AM // 05:55

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/signed for not having rebirth. Don't like rebirth on a monk, it should be for other classes that doesn't need its energy nearly as much as monk.

Yeah, a monk cannot afford to be out of energy in the middle of combat. Just chunk the res, I find that I'm more effective without a res when running hybrids.

Tyla · Apr 04, 2008, 05:57 AM // 05:57

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Originally Posted by funbun

Yeah, a monk cannot afford to be out of energy in the middle of combat. Just chunk the res, I find that I'm more effective without a res when running hybrids.

It's not really beneficial to have a res on a Monk anyway.
Since your common Monk bar is quite tight, and you need to deal with plentiful situations.

Div · Apr 04, 2008, 06:54 AM // 06:54

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

[skill]word of healing[/skill][skill]dwayna's kiss[/skill][skill]aegis[/skill][skill]protective spirit[/skill][skill]reversal of fortune[/skill][skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill][skill]dismiss condition[/skill]

12+1+1 Healing Prayers
10+1 Protection Prayers
8+1 Divine Favour

Going back to this, I'd even run something like 12+1+1 heal, 8+1 prot, 10+1 divine. All you do is lose 2 (or 3) seconds off the prot spirit and 8 points off the conditional heal in dismiss. In return, you get 6 more unconditional heal on every spell you cast. In addition, your high set is likely to be divine favor unless you have very specific high sets, so 9's generally dangerous in case you get weakened (or you can be cool and get a req8 inscribable divine favor offhand :P).

Stormlord Alex · Apr 04, 2008, 08:35 AM // 08:35

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

(or you can be cool and get a req8 inscribable divine favor offhand :P).

I have one of those!

... umm... I might be interested in saying goodbye to it too if you're interested

rick1027 · Apr 04, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20

i agree a monk with a rez is losing a decent slot for something useful. i always bring the rez scrolls instead now

Grammar · Apr 04, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Going back to this, I'd even run something like 12+1+1 heal, 8+1 prot, 10+1 divine. All you do is lose 2 (or 3) seconds off the prot spirit and 8 points off the conditional heal in dismiss. In return, you get 6 more unconditional heal on every spell you cast. In addition, your high set is likely to be divine favor unless you have very specific high sets, so 9's generally dangerous in case you get weakened (or you can be cool and get a req8 inscribable divine favor offhand :P).

I'd agree with that.
Typically, the att. spread depends on which prot spells you take: 9 prot for Aegis, 10 prot for SoA, and 11 prot for Guardian. Then go 14 healing and throw the rest in DF.

Since that build lacks SoA and Guardian, then I'd agree with 14 healing, 11 DF, and 9 prot.

Grey_Ghost · Apr 07, 2008, 08:37 AM // 08:37

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Originally Posted by Yichi

The 40/20/20 staff is usually better since most of the prots themselves are a lasting enchantment

What about a martial set? Would 10% more HSR be worth the lost 20% HCT with Aegis and SoA on the bar?

Yichi · Apr 07, 2008, 09:41 PM // 21:41

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Originally Posted by Grey_Ghost

What about a martial set? Would 10% more HSR be worth the lost 20% HCT with Aegis and SoA on the bar?

no it wouldn't be.

The average Hybrid Monk bar like the one above has typically 4 weapon sets:

set1) 40/20/20 prot staff
set2) 40/40 healing set
set3) +5/+30 sword/spear/whatever and +10vs X/+30 shields
set4) +15/-1 regen set (wand and offhand)

Wenspire · Apr 07, 2008, 11:07 PM // 23:07

I use the following build for the most part in most PvE situations (I may be a bit off on the attributes, as I am typing this away from home):

16 Healing (12+3+1)
12-13 DivFav (11-12+1)
6 Protection (5+1)

Restore Life (2 sec rez w/ about 85-90% energy recovery for target)
Heal Party
Healer's Boon
Seed of Life
Healing Seed
Ethereal Light
Heal Other
Protective Spirit

I typically run a 20/20 Healing Icon with a +5EN/+20% Enchant weapon, or a 20/20 Healing Staff with a +5EN head and +20% enchant wrapping.

Yichi · Apr 08, 2008, 03:12 AM // 03:12

dropping restore life for GoLE would be optimal for that build.

Racthoh · Apr 08, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09

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Originally Posted by Yichi

dropping restore life for GoLE would be optimal for that build.

And the superior rune.